This is also triggered by LPP community in Orkut. Go on...
Is love possible without sex in a wife-husband relationship?
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Love is spiritual..Sex is material..
Spiritual is beautful when it is intermingled with material..
Why do we try to seperate spirituality with materialism...
Let both be there in harmony...
Sex is possible without love. But love without sex is impossible..
Spirituality will show itself physically in someway or other. So love will show its physical nature.
Thats why people say when love is in the air, it shows! Love is like a smell, if you have it, you can't hide it!
But Induging in Materialism won't become spiritual in nature. It explains why the rituals are useless for attaining spirituality.
Also it explains, sex without love is possible. Ask the prostitutes!
jo
Thursday, July 22, 2010
Inferior life , Superior life
I was an Orkut addict when I was in the final year of my engineering. Now the addiction has come back.
Now a days i am engaged in discussions and arguments in an Orkut Community called LPP or 'Logic, Psychology, Philosophy'. Orkut has become my favourite passtime.
Later, I realized all the discussions and arguments I pose in the threads in these communities are actually worthy of being a content for a blog. As I am now being irregular in writing blogs, the LPP engagements have revived my interest in blogs as well.
Tonight, we had heated discussions regarding 'Is war inevitable?'...
People argued as we become civilized, we reduce bloodshed.
I am infamous in all the communities to refute whatever the Thread Starter or Lead Poster is arguing about.
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Somebody put forward 'human life is precious'. Then i had my reason to refute as given below:
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I also added these lines. I had an experience of very annoying gory picture infront of my mind's eye. I am sure everybody got my point when i put forward this. Because the experience was too intense and cruel. it went like this:
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All killing is the same. Think through this.
if there is an instument that replicates the experience of a chicken which is getting beheaded to a human being in its same intensity...!
I dont think that is funny.
jo
Now a days i am engaged in discussions and arguments in an Orkut Community called LPP or 'Logic, Psychology, Philosophy'. Orkut has become my favourite passtime.
Later, I realized all the discussions and arguments I pose in the threads in these communities are actually worthy of being a content for a blog. As I am now being irregular in writing blogs, the LPP engagements have revived my interest in blogs as well.
Tonight, we had heated discussions regarding 'Is war inevitable?'...
People argued as we become civilized, we reduce bloodshed.
I am infamous in all the communities to refute whatever the Thread Starter or Lead Poster is arguing about.
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Somebody put forward 'human life is precious'. Then i had my reason to refute as given below:
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This is hypocrisy..
Why only human life is so precious?
Chilly Chicken in your plate had a life. Why its inferior?
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Either see all life as inferior..which will be 'being pro-war'!
Or see all life as superior..which will be 'being anti-war'!
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Somebody had put forward 'the more civilized we are, the less bloodshed and wars in this world'.
I came with my refutals
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Civilization mentioned here is human civilization...
It only means development of ways for the survival of a specific species - here in this case human species' survival..!!
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So this is clearly a hypocrisy...
Why only human life is so precious?
Chilly Chicken in your plate had a life. Why its inferior?
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Either see all life as inferior..which will be 'being pro-war'!
Or see all life as superior..which will be 'being anti-war'!
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Somebody had put forward 'the more civilized we are, the less bloodshed and wars in this world'.
I came with my refutals
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Civilization mentioned here is human civilization...
It only means development of ways for the survival of a specific species - here in this case human species' survival..!!
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So this is clearly a hypocrisy...
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I also added these lines. I had an experience of very annoying gory picture infront of my mind's eye. I am sure everybody got my point when i put forward this. Because the experience was too intense and cruel. it went like this:
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All killing is the same. Think through this.
if there is an instument that replicates the experience of a chicken which is getting beheaded to a human being in its same intensity...!
I dont think that is funny.
jo
Thursday, June 10, 2010
Realizations exists in the realm of thoughts?
I was reading the blog of my roomie(room 501c ,bldg 27, spjimr mumbai), prem which is freakin-god.blogspot.com.. God is a freaking guy..;) !
He has some weird ideas about some things. For example, he believes everybody lives up to their name. At the end, the nature of a person is that of what his name means.
Beacuse he is called Premankur, he espouses the idea that he not only brings love to eveybody, but also teaches others to love. Is there any sense in this nonsense? There are lot of 'Smiths' in US. But they don't collectively turn to be blacksmiths or goldsmiths or whatever.
Prem is one the very few guys in the institute with some philosophical bent - the only one i have yet found. He is now reading Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead. He reads and discusses with me. And he says he has benefitted a lot from those discussions. He said he started hating some people, because they are impure in the sense they fake themselves. The protogonaist in the novel also do the same. I told him this is just an initial stage of your philosophical growth. There lies a very long way to journey where you will be full with compassion towards the universe.
He had written of a realization which happened to him recently. He claims he got connected to a greater purpose of life from the divine and has been called to move on.
i wrote in his blog which mentioned his experience of realization -
In some level of your existence , u realize something.. You feel great and in top of the world.
The next moment you turn into a worm..You are nobody. A descent has happened.
The ascent was not permanent. You have to know that everything is temporary..Nothing exists to be eternal.
Are you sure your realization is eternal?
Sometimes its the thoughts that disguises into realizations..
And clearly thoughts are not realizations..
Thoughts imprisons us in its illusions..We need to be free from thoughts.. And vicious circle is that it our thought again that we need to come out of the thoughts.
We need to make sure that the realization is not a thought.. - ( These are some ideas i got from speeches of J.Krishnamurthy).
Thats why true realization can't be penned down, as said by buddha, osho and other numerous zen masters. The moment you try to describe the realization, it disappears..because realization happens above the level of thoughts..
If its not realization, it is a piece of art, it is a literature, it is a philosophy..
jo
He has some weird ideas about some things. For example, he believes everybody lives up to their name. At the end, the nature of a person is that of what his name means.
Beacuse he is called Premankur, he espouses the idea that he not only brings love to eveybody, but also teaches others to love. Is there any sense in this nonsense? There are lot of 'Smiths' in US. But they don't collectively turn to be blacksmiths or goldsmiths or whatever.
Prem is one the very few guys in the institute with some philosophical bent - the only one i have yet found. He is now reading Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead. He reads and discusses with me. And he says he has benefitted a lot from those discussions. He said he started hating some people, because they are impure in the sense they fake themselves. The protogonaist in the novel also do the same. I told him this is just an initial stage of your philosophical growth. There lies a very long way to journey where you will be full with compassion towards the universe.
He had written of a realization which happened to him recently. He claims he got connected to a greater purpose of life from the divine and has been called to move on.
i wrote in his blog which mentioned his experience of realization -
In some level of your existence , u realize something.. You feel great and in top of the world.
The next moment you turn into a worm..You are nobody. A descent has happened.
The ascent was not permanent. You have to know that everything is temporary..Nothing exists to be eternal.
Are you sure your realization is eternal?
Sometimes its the thoughts that disguises into realizations..
And clearly thoughts are not realizations..
Thoughts imprisons us in its illusions..We need to be free from thoughts.. And vicious circle is that it our thought again that we need to come out of the thoughts.
We need to make sure that the realization is not a thought.. - ( These are some ideas i got from speeches of J.Krishnamurthy).
Thats why true realization can't be penned down, as said by buddha, osho and other numerous zen masters. The moment you try to describe the realization, it disappears..because realization happens above the level of thoughts..
If its not realization, it is a piece of art, it is a literature, it is a philosophy..
jo
Friday, December 18, 2009
The relentless insider in me
Many a time, I am alone. I become alone. I am usually not lonely (referred to the feeling of loneliness). There is a being inside me. Almost all introverts like me would agree to this. When I am alone, I am with that being. I would call it as the insider (not the notable book of P.V.Narasimha Rao). The insider talks to me all the time. He never leaves me alone. When I did Yogic meditation in the mornings of 2007, over the terrace before going for work, i had him quiet. But not for many days. It creeps and crawls into the dark cellars of my mind probing something. I have no control over him unless I do yoga and meditation.
I know that if I send the above lines to any psychiatrist, he will simply prescribe drugs for schizzophrenia or obsessive compulsive disorder or bipolar disorder or borderline personality disorder (these are some words I extremely am in love with). I am not making my web-life a psychopath's thrilling adventure-story. I have my musings. Thats all I wanted to convey.
My thoughts revolving around my being are very annoying. They are like buzzing bees. So to reduce the pain it gives, I type it down in my Cellphone's (Sony Ericson W700i) Notes application. So I have lot of notes inside my cellphone. Nowadays when i try to enter a new note, its saying 'overloaded and not able to create new notes. Please delete some'. The contents in the notes are elementary and not elaborated. They are in simple and precise sentences. For a particular subject there may be more or less 2 ideas. But when i try to get it down here, i may tend to elucidate upon them. I would like to pen them down in the coming days...
jo
I know that if I send the above lines to any psychiatrist, he will simply prescribe drugs for schizzophrenia or obsessive compulsive disorder or bipolar disorder or borderline personality disorder (these are some words I extremely am in love with). I am not making my web-life a psychopath's thrilling adventure-story. I have my musings. Thats all I wanted to convey.
My thoughts revolving around my being are very annoying. They are like buzzing bees. So to reduce the pain it gives, I type it down in my Cellphone's (Sony Ericson W700i) Notes application. So I have lot of notes inside my cellphone. Nowadays when i try to enter a new note, its saying 'overloaded and not able to create new notes. Please delete some'. The contents in the notes are elementary and not elaborated. They are in simple and precise sentences. For a particular subject there may be more or less 2 ideas. But when i try to get it down here, i may tend to elucidate upon them. I would like to pen them down in the coming days...
jo
Thursday, November 5, 2009
Harmony is the goal; Dissonance is the hindrance...
I saw a film today named 'Amelie'. It is a french film in which an introverted love seeking woman named 'Amelie' starts feeling a sense of harmony in herself after she decides to mend the messy lives of people around her. For doing it she devises funny strategic ways and enacts it with perfection. Later she realies it needs courage to mend one's own messy life. The story is about how a young lady like Amelie gather enough courage to make it happen.
Harmony is what we want. And harmony in the way we feel ourselves is the intoxication we search here and there. We try to find it in our relationships. We try to find in our work places. We try to find it in cocaine,alcohol and tobacco. We want physical, spiritual and mental harmony for which we join Yoga and Pranayam. We do meditation. We do aerobics. What all we do for this elusive stuff called harmony. We fight even world wars for harmony.
This harmony is physical,mental and spiritual all at the same time. Socrates had told : "Its good to marry; If you get a good wife, you can be happy. If you get a bad one, you can be a philosopher." It needs lack of harmony for becoming a philosopher. A person in harmony doesn't look for meaning of life and other metaphysics. He doesn't find it needed at the moment when he is in harmony. J.Krishnamurthi had told same stuff when he was asked whats the meaning of life.
Students from good families are blessed with harmony in themselves. Affection from family or other relationships is the greatest source of harmony for most of the human beings. This harmony is what that makes those students excel in their life. If somebody lacks harmony he won't be able to grow. He will be in a rut. He is in a vicious cycle in which he ends up in dissonance whatever he does to overcome.
I don't understand the mechanics of harmony. When you feel the affection of somebody, out of nothing harmony takes birth in you. You don't remember you were depressed the moment before. That might be what being-completely-in-the-moment means for Osho and J.Krishnamurthi.
The dissonance is what you have to dispell from your life. If that is done, you are bound to grow in harmony and you reach the goal. From lower harmony to higher you take strides on and on. Let your destiny unravel with its own ways of dispelling the only hindrance to reach the goal ie. dissonance.
I had gone for my Abhyudaya session today. It is a scheme in which PGDM students are asked to mentor a child from poor family background. We are required to guide them not only in their studies but also building positively their personality, attitude and the whole outlook towards their life, others lives and society as a whole. The word Abhyudaya means 'growing together'. I remember 'selfless service' is one of the ways to reach Krishna(Consciousness) from my reading of Bhagvat Gita. Krishna is a mythological name given to harmony as far as I know the indian philosophy. I do feel abhyudaya is quite a means to be harmonious. I also feel management is nothing but building harmony inside yourself which will be reflected outside by ist own law. The law being 'What is our inside world becomes our outside world'.
A really long prose can be written on this abstract subject. Anyway all this will remain in theory itself unless you experience it atleast once.
jo
Harmony is what we want. And harmony in the way we feel ourselves is the intoxication we search here and there. We try to find it in our relationships. We try to find in our work places. We try to find it in cocaine,alcohol and tobacco. We want physical, spiritual and mental harmony for which we join Yoga and Pranayam. We do meditation. We do aerobics. What all we do for this elusive stuff called harmony. We fight even world wars for harmony.
This harmony is physical,mental and spiritual all at the same time. Socrates had told : "Its good to marry; If you get a good wife, you can be happy. If you get a bad one, you can be a philosopher." It needs lack of harmony for becoming a philosopher. A person in harmony doesn't look for meaning of life and other metaphysics. He doesn't find it needed at the moment when he is in harmony. J.Krishnamurthi had told same stuff when he was asked whats the meaning of life.
Students from good families are blessed with harmony in themselves. Affection from family or other relationships is the greatest source of harmony for most of the human beings. This harmony is what that makes those students excel in their life. If somebody lacks harmony he won't be able to grow. He will be in a rut. He is in a vicious cycle in which he ends up in dissonance whatever he does to overcome.
I don't understand the mechanics of harmony. When you feel the affection of somebody, out of nothing harmony takes birth in you. You don't remember you were depressed the moment before. That might be what being-completely-in-the-moment means for Osho and J.Krishnamurthi.
The dissonance is what you have to dispell from your life. If that is done, you are bound to grow in harmony and you reach the goal. From lower harmony to higher you take strides on and on. Let your destiny unravel with its own ways of dispelling the only hindrance to reach the goal ie. dissonance.
I had gone for my Abhyudaya session today. It is a scheme in which PGDM students are asked to mentor a child from poor family background. We are required to guide them not only in their studies but also building positively their personality, attitude and the whole outlook towards their life, others lives and society as a whole. The word Abhyudaya means 'growing together'. I remember 'selfless service' is one of the ways to reach Krishna(Consciousness) from my reading of Bhagvat Gita. Krishna is a mythological name given to harmony as far as I know the indian philosophy. I do feel abhyudaya is quite a means to be harmonious. I also feel management is nothing but building harmony inside yourself which will be reflected outside by ist own law. The law being 'What is our inside world becomes our outside world'.
A really long prose can be written on this abstract subject. Anyway all this will remain in theory itself unless you experience it atleast once.
jo
Tuesday, October 13, 2009
Being good and suffering pain
You may be thinking that 'doing/being good' is a privilege you have to live in this world with greater comfort. If you think that ethical living will give you an easy living, you are wrong.
Nature teaches it in this way - It doesn't matter if you are a carnivore or a herbivore, other carnivores will never stop hunting you. Doing good is no reason for the wild world to behave nicely to innocent you.
There are a zillion of examples in real life for this many of which you yourself can think of from your personal lives. You may be good. But its not a shield for you to get protected from being cheated by the best of your friends. Its not that you will never be suffering from others actions if you are good. Moral of the story is not that you have to be cruel to prevent.
Most of the people are conditioned to believe that when they do good, only good things will happen to them. Its the duty of the Supreme Being to make arranagements to shower good things to the good doer. Is it that way? Is it not justice if bad things happen to good people?
Too much on doing good without the concept of karma is handicapped. The theory of karma given by Bhagavat Gita says if you do selfless service to the worthy people, you will feel some supreme presence of goodness or happiness in you. There are many people working with NGOs who are living examples to this. This part of human existence is called Spiritual Quotient.
In my college,SPJIMR, we have a faculty named Mr. Parimal Merchant who has been collaborating with various NGOs apart from teaching students. His personal experience says, the selfless acts to the worthy people fills a vaccum. It is like drops of rain water in the dry soil in summer. As a result of this, his personal power increases. He is loved by everyone in the college. Theres nobody in the college who is not a fan of his ways. His personlaity is worth emulating.
So do not lose heart. Do good and feel the supreme being's presence in yourself. Its the easiest and fastet way compared to sitting idle for meditation.
jo
Nature teaches it in this way - It doesn't matter if you are a carnivore or a herbivore, other carnivores will never stop hunting you. Doing good is no reason for the wild world to behave nicely to innocent you.
There are a zillion of examples in real life for this many of which you yourself can think of from your personal lives. You may be good. But its not a shield for you to get protected from being cheated by the best of your friends. Its not that you will never be suffering from others actions if you are good. Moral of the story is not that you have to be cruel to prevent.
Most of the people are conditioned to believe that when they do good, only good things will happen to them. Its the duty of the Supreme Being to make arranagements to shower good things to the good doer. Is it that way? Is it not justice if bad things happen to good people?
Too much on doing good without the concept of karma is handicapped. The theory of karma given by Bhagavat Gita says if you do selfless service to the worthy people, you will feel some supreme presence of goodness or happiness in you. There are many people working with NGOs who are living examples to this. This part of human existence is called Spiritual Quotient.
In my college,SPJIMR, we have a faculty named Mr. Parimal Merchant who has been collaborating with various NGOs apart from teaching students. His personal experience says, the selfless acts to the worthy people fills a vaccum. It is like drops of rain water in the dry soil in summer. As a result of this, his personal power increases. He is loved by everyone in the college. Theres nobody in the college who is not a fan of his ways. His personlaity is worth emulating.
So do not lose heart. Do good and feel the supreme being's presence in yourself. Its the easiest and fastet way compared to sitting idle for meditation.
jo
Sunday, October 11, 2009
A call for being a yogi
I recently read somewhere, among a set of buddhist monks, a criteria for selecting the 'guru' (gu-darkness,ru-dispel meaning Spiritual Teacher) of the community is the dexterity with which one controls his blood pressure...
Dr. Pravin Koppikar is a very famous doctor having a clinic at Seven Bungalows,Andheri (West),Mumbai. He told i seemed like having flu. He gave me meddication for 5 days. During his regular check up, he found in me blood pressure in a level which is more than normal. My BP measured 140/94 to a normal of 120/80 for a guy of my age. I didn't have jitters hearing that. Praneeth, my friend in next room of hostel, asked me how you are so cool having known your condition.
The doctor gave me a one page info leaflet for letting me know more about Hypertension(HT). HT can not be cured unfortunately but can only be controlled. This is a positive sign. This is something which goes with my subtle desire of becoming a yogi. I resolve to do yoga for reducing my weight, stress and bp forever. There were no great physical cause to do it. But now i can see all the fingers pointing to me being a yogi.
I can't forget the awe and wonder with which i read the legendary popular book by a yogi, Yogi Yogananda Pramahamsa. I had bought it from Mangalore central railway station for Rs.125 when i was about to journey to my home in kerala. All the yogic powers which is mentioned in the book, i will be posessing. I will be beyond doubt knowing the supreme truth. The tomorrow has become better with this hypertension. Now starts a new life with ht...
jo
Dr. Pravin Koppikar is a very famous doctor having a clinic at Seven Bungalows,Andheri (West),Mumbai. He told i seemed like having flu. He gave me meddication for 5 days. During his regular check up, he found in me blood pressure in a level which is more than normal. My BP measured 140/94 to a normal of 120/80 for a guy of my age. I didn't have jitters hearing that. Praneeth, my friend in next room of hostel, asked me how you are so cool having known your condition.
The doctor gave me a one page info leaflet for letting me know more about Hypertension(HT). HT can not be cured unfortunately but can only be controlled. This is a positive sign. This is something which goes with my subtle desire of becoming a yogi. I resolve to do yoga for reducing my weight, stress and bp forever. There were no great physical cause to do it. But now i can see all the fingers pointing to me being a yogi.
I can't forget the awe and wonder with which i read the legendary popular book by a yogi, Yogi Yogananda Pramahamsa. I had bought it from Mangalore central railway station for Rs.125 when i was about to journey to my home in kerala. All the yogic powers which is mentioned in the book, i will be posessing. I will be beyond doubt knowing the supreme truth. The tomorrow has become better with this hypertension. Now starts a new life with ht...
jo
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