Thursday, June 10, 2010

Realizations exists in the realm of thoughts?

I was reading the blog of my roomie(room 501c ,bldg 27, spjimr mumbai), prem which is freakin-god.blogspot.com.. God is a freaking guy..;) !

He has some weird ideas about some things. For example, he believes everybody lives up to their name. At the end, the nature of a person is that of what his name means.
Beacuse he is called Premankur, he espouses the idea that he not only brings love to eveybody, but also teaches others to love. Is there any sense in this nonsense? There are lot of 'Smiths' in US. But they don't collectively turn to be blacksmiths or goldsmiths or whatever.

Prem is one the very few guys in the institute with some philosophical bent - the only one i have yet found. He is now reading Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead. He reads and discusses with me. And he says he has benefitted a lot from those discussions. He said he started hating some people, because they are impure in the sense they fake themselves. The protogonaist in the novel also do the same. I told him this is just an initial stage of your philosophical growth. There lies a very long way to journey where you will be full with compassion towards the universe.

He had written of a realization which happened to him recently. He claims he got connected to a greater purpose of life from the divine and has been called to move on.

i wrote in his blog which mentioned his experience of realization -
In some level of your existence , u realize something.. You feel great and in top of the world.
The next moment you turn into a worm..You are nobody. A descent has happened.
The ascent was not permanent. You have to know that everything is temporary..Nothing exists to be eternal.
Are you sure your realization is eternal?
Sometimes its the thoughts that disguises into realizations..

And clearly thoughts are not realizations..
Thoughts imprisons us in its illusions..We need to be free from thoughts.. And vicious circle is that it our thought again that we need to come out of the thoughts.
We need to make sure that the realization is not a thought.. - ( These are some ideas i got from speeches of J.Krishnamurthy).

Thats why true realization can't be penned down, as said by buddha, osho and other numerous zen masters. The moment you try to describe the realization, it disappears..because realization happens above the level of thoughts..

If its not realization, it is a piece of art, it is a literature, it is a philosophy..

jo